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David Satter : Russia Does Not Take Responsibility On Own Actions And All the More Does Not Care Abo

                 David Satter : Russia Does Not Take Responsibility On

                  Own Actions And All the More Does Not Care About

                                         Other’s Rights . . .

 

   By Ia Merkviladze , NY - Washington , USA

  (For the News Paper “Sakartvelos Respublika” 08/21/08)

 

         deivid sateri: ruseTi sakuTar moqmedebebze pasuxs ar agebs

         da miTumetes sxvaTa uflebebs arad dagidevT . .

 

  interviu gazeT “fainenSel Taimsis” yofil korespondentTan, Ass

s huverisa da Hudson institutebis mkvlevarTan, cnobil

journalist David saterTan ..

merkvilaZe IA, New-iorki - Washington, Ass

- b-in deivid , 8 agvistodan moyolebuli amerikeli eqsertebi cxared msjeloben, imis Taobaze, Tu vin iqneba yvelaze mkacri ruseTis mimarT: You makqeini obama. amwuTas, roca Cveni vsaubrobT, aqauri satelevizio arxebiT abortebis sakiTxaTan dakavSirebiT saprezidento maraTonelebis sajaro mosmena gadaicema. amerikelebs ainteresebT makqeinisa of Oboma "sTeiTmenTebi" abort sakiTxaTan dakavSirebiT . . . abortisadmi damokidebulebam SesaZlebelia gadawyvutos SSA-is momavali Prezident vinaoba?

- diax. vinaobas es da sxva sakiTxebi erTad gadawyveten. amerika demokratiuli qveyanaa da xalxs SeuZlia xma misces imas, vinc mis interesebTan axlosaa. Zalian rTuli procesis mowmeni varT. Cemis azriT,   makqeini ufro realurad iyurebs saqmeTa viTarebas, vidre obama. obamas colma didi Secdoma dauSva, roca qmris saprezidento kandidatad arCevisas ganacxada is, rom igi pirvelad Tavis cxovrebaSi Tavisi qveyniT amayobs. es ki   imas mowmobs, rom mas arc ise kargad warmoudgenia, ra warmoadgens misi qveyana, ar esmis rogoria es samyaro, rogor cxovroben sxva adamianebi. obama nakleb gamocdilia da kargad ar esmis is mkacri wesebi, romlic arsebos; ar esmis, Tu rogor unda daicvas susti Zlierma. vfiqrob, rom piradi Tvisebebis gaTvaliwinebiT, saqarTvelos swored makqeini gamodgeba give daicavs.

- six mgonia, rum amerikelebi ufro xSirad axseneben "civ WHO, otters es xsenebul iyos wave. . .

- es Araxa Tvisebaa: raimes asaxsnelad mimarTo im situcias, Cancer mexierebas aRebeWda addressed. axlandeli mdgomareoba marTlac momagonebs civi elementebs failed. giviTvaliswinoT wave is, rum failed Drosia civi saqarTvelo ssrk - is nawili Iyo. igi, faqtobrivad, Amerikis mowinaaRmdege gaxldaT Sulac would give Matt amerikelebi moswondaT. Zveli warmodgenebi XOM gamocdilebaSi samudamod rCeba. droTa ganmavlobaSi es damokidebulebebi, rasakvirevlia, Seicvleba. magram mainc . .   Tumca ager ukraina ukve didi xania ruseTs ar emxroba. ruseTis qmedebas mxolod yirgizeTma da yazaxeTma dauWira mxari. droTa ganmavlobaSi   axali midgomebi gamomidavdeba, situacia Seicvleba. mTavaria is, rom am “civi omi” dros taqtikuri gardatexa ukve moxda . . .   

- ra gvaklia civi omis suraTis sisrulisTvis?

- is, rom civi omi   yovelTvis civi da usisxlo iyo. iyo SemTxvevebi, roca adamianebi iRupebodnen, magram igi arasodes gacxelebula. ruseTi Seecdeba Seqmnas iseTi situacia, rom Tu amerika ar miiRebs ruseTis absurdul pirobebs, igi ruseTis mier Seqmnil problemebs Seejaxeba. geopolitikuri TvalsazrisiT, konfliqti saqarTveloSi afxazeTisa da oseTis sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT ar Sedis ruseTis interesebSi, magram igi xelovnurad qmnis iseT damokidebulbas yofil “moZmeebTan”. myardeba mudmivi omis reJimi. arada Tavad ruseTisTvis, isev da isev geopolitikuri TvalsazrisiT, mniSvnelovania Seiqmnas demokratiuli qveyana, romelsac dasavleTis qveynebTan erTad msoflio usafrTxoebis damyareba SeuZlia.   ruseTis problema isaa, rom ver gaigo, rom mas aRar aqvs ufleba iyos interest yofil sabWoTa respublikebze. gaigo values, Roma yofili sabWoTa respublikebi damoukidebelni gaxdnen. because aqvT ufleba damoukidebeli arsebobisa da Tavis warmoebisa policy.

- TvliT, rom es medvedevma Sansi xelidan gauSva?

- diax. Medvedev fiqrobda, Roma moaxerxebda ruseTisTvis alternatiuli imijis Seqmnas. ing aseve Egon, rom igi amit moaxerxebda dasavleTze zemoqmedebs da gamyarebs Gavle. marTali giTxraT, seriozulad or Mimir Medvedev, rogorc pirdapiri Semcvleli snowball. vfiqrob, rom es aris ubralo mask. Arad mask ROM ufro damajerebeli iyos, saWiroa ufor meti damajerebloba da moqmedeba. Cven ki ras vxedavT? rusebi am maskaradis srul   diskreditacias ewevian.

- SesaZlebelia putinis CeCnur kampaniasa da medvedevis (faqtobrivad, isev putinis) qarTul kampanias Soris paralelis gavleba?

- ara. roca putini saprezidento kandidati gaxlda, misi reitingi lamis 2 %   -s udrida. gasamarjveblad mas   raRac unda gaekeTebina da es raRac CeCneTi gaxda. magram medvedevs ar hqonda amis aucilebloba. samagierod, arsebobs ufro zogadi aucilebloba: rusulma elitam unda Seqmnas sagareo safrTze, arc ise rom adamianma rusma xSirad ifiqros am elitist korumpirebulobaze da qveyanaSi demokratiuli wyobis Seqmnaze. rusul elitas sxvebze dominirebis, erTxelisuflebianobis instiqti amoZravebs. amitom rusebi cxovrebis absoluturad cxovroben da sxva style cxovrebas my ganixilaven adamianis poziciidan, romelsac sxvisi Cagvra SeuZlia. sapirispirod amis, kavkasiuri culture da tradiacia Tavisuflebis moyvareulia. am da sxva mizezTa gamo es Mzima memkvidroba ruseTSi ufroa gamoxatuli, otter saqarTvelosa da sxva zogier respublikaSi. gansakuTrebiT, Ukrainians. amitomac iqmneba axali konfliqtebis axali Taoba.

- rogor fiqrobT, 8 agvistomde saakaSvils buSis adminitraciiasTan daaxloeba your daewyo rom es ar ar rom navTobsadenebi gvqonoda, Cven miviRebdiT ass-isa da dasavleTis erTmniSvnelovan mxardaWeras?

- mxardaWeras nebismier varintSi miiRebdiT. imitom, rom ruseTma daarRvia suverenuli qveynis xelSeuxebloba da saerTaSiriso sazRvrebi. saqarTvelo ase Tu ise, nebismier SemTxvevaSi ukve gaerkva dakavSirebiT da Tavis miznebTan cdilobs dauaxlovdes dasavleTs. amitomac ice, rasakvirvelia, Semdeg tendencias aZlierebs: dasavleTi aucileblad daicavs evropul qveyanas. movaleobaa ice mission. dasavleTi ambobs: Cven Unda davicvaT isini, visac cxovreba civilizirebuli kanonebiT probation.

- Germania "quota" Seagvianda Cveni dacva. . . rogorc buharestSi asserts axla.

- Germania ruseTis energoresursebze Zlieraa damokidebuli. . ESAA mizezi amis.

- rock saerTaSoiso Zalebi Jer Arsad Canan rusebic the air Cqaroben samSobloSi dabrunebas, ra iqneba regions mSvidobis saerTaSoriso am sure?

- aranairi Garantia ar arsebobs imita, rom winaswar ruseTis qmedebis gansazRvra SeuZlebelia. mizezi ICIT raa? ruseTma dRemde, faqtobrivad, ar aRiara saqarTvelos damoukidebloba am sityvis sruli gagebiT. IGI sxvis suverenitets pativs ar scems to Isev hgonia, rom Tbilisma ki ara, kremlma unda gadawyvitos yvelaferi. ruseTma verafriT ver GA IGO, rom SSRK arar arsebobs, faqti es ver gaiTavisa. amgvari situations TavisTavad qmnis Iset situcias, roca garantiebi ar arsebobs.

- sabWoTa kavSiris "SenarCuneba" unitazebis moparviT undaT?

- es morodiorobaa, meore msoflio omis tradicia. Tanac nu daiviwyebT, rom ruseTSi uamravi Zalian Raribi adamiani cxovrobs.

- ho, magram, naxmari unitazi? . . .

- mere ra . .    isini, vinc rusul jarSi msaxurobs, iuaRresad Raribi ojaxebidan arian. yovel SemTxvevaSi, rusul armiaSi disciplina arsodes yofila, miTumetes, roca saubaria samoqalaqo mosaxleobis pativiscemaze. gaixseneT CeCneTis omi. rusul jars ara aqvs eTikuri laugh "Manifesti" romliTac ixalmZRvnelebs.

- Tqvenis azriT, CeCneTi pirvel dResve danebeboda kremls rom, ra iqneboda?

- is Zalia rTuli kiTxvaa. Ki SeasaZlebelia saerTod aseTi arnaxuli, agresuli rusuli Jaris SeCereba reJimis da misi? nebismier SemTxvevaSi, rock putinma is gadawyvetileba Miiro, more conveniences awuxebda dasavletis reaqcia ar. SeeZlo dasvleTs UFRO MetaD miedevnebina Tvali adamianis uflebebis seriozuli darRvevebze ruseTSi, CeCneTi. vfiqrob, rom amgvari monitoringi ruseTis SIGINT ruseTs Tavdasxmebisgan saqarTveloze TAVSA Seakavebinebda. axla fishy Tqma Znelia, imitom, rom Cven saqme gvaqvs rusuli reJimis xasiaTTan. Tavidanve, ssrk dangrvevis periodidan sruliad naTeli gaxda, rom didi kremli gavleniT sargeblobs kriminalur samyaroSi; yvelaze cnobili Rusi plitikosebi organizbul danaSaulebriv dajgufebebs emegobrebodnen da axlac emegobrebian. dasavleTs swored amaze Unda moexdina reagireba. Roca aseTi xelisufleba samxdero mzadyofnaSia mentalitetidan gamomdinare fundamentalisturi mission, igi uaRresad seriozulad saSiSi faqtoria. bandituri fsiqologia zneobrivi niadagis Seqmnis safuZvels iZleva ar. isini sakuTar moqmedebebze pasuxs ageben ar da miTumetes sxvaTa uflebebs dagideven arad.

- anu Saakashvili ruseTis SemoWrisTanave danebebuliyo unda? Azri AR hqonda kriminalur armiasTan brZolas, banditur fsiqologias rom Tavi davaneboT, Tundac rusebis rixcovnobis gamo?

- daiwyo qarTuli soflebis dabombva to xelisufleba regireba moaxdina, Tanac samxreT'll feel teritoriis dabrunebas Seecada. advilia amerikidan Wkviani to Tqva iyo, rom es iyo provocations, Ruşeţu mxolod elodeboda moments. bunebrivia, me yvela details ar vici, magram dampyrobi Zalovanebis moqmedebis amgvari Sablonis orueuli arerTxel minaxavs. ruseTs Egon problemas wamierad gadawyvetda. Dasaji is, vinc natoSi apirebda Sesvlas. saakaSvilis mxridan es ar iyo yvelaze Wkvinuri gadawyvetileba samxreT'll feel dabrunebisTvis. problem isa, rom Putini am gegmas Tu ara, sxva gegmas SemogigdebdaT, sxva provokacias moawyobda. Zalian advilia dRes saakaSvilis criticism Tumca me amas ar Sevudgebi. nebismier vatriantSi es omi Zalzed didi zianis momtani iqneboda saqarTvelosTvis. magram mware simarTle imasi mdgomareobs, rom Tu gvian Adre, provocations mainc iqneboda. . roca saubari natoSi gawevrianebaze midgeba, es processes SeiZleba gaZneldes, radganac saakaSvils omis provokatorad gamocxadeben. amit mniSvnelivania mowinaaRmdeges koziri pirdapiri xelSi ar misceT. Tumca, winaswar gaTvlac Zalian Znelia.

- kremls CvenTvis ra saxis provokaciuri gegmebis CamonaTvali SeiZleba hqondes?

- rusebs xom mdidari da nayofieri warmosaxvis unari aqvT. adre, jer kidev “vardebis revolucimde’, maxsovs, xma gavrcelda, SevardnaZis mkvlelobis organizebaze, mgoni promakovi daadanaSaules. Tu rusebs destabilizacia gadawyvetili aqvT, isini amas aucileblad gaakeTeben, Tundac opoziciis provocirebiT.

- 17 wlis winaT amerikis axlandeli prezidentis mamam z. gamsaurdias “dinebis winaaRmdeg mcuravi” uwoda. Amerikas Masin Egon, rom ar ssrk grabs advil daiSleboda, 15 autexda ar da Tavis tkivils Amit faqtobrivad, qarTvelebs "dadumeba" Urci. umcrosi axla busi ruseTis dinebis sawinaaRdegod ukanmouxedavad mcurav saakaSvils mxars uWers. . .

- Masin politikuri moZraobis iyo sxvagvari inertia. ssrk cylinders gamsaxurdias marqsistul ideologies emSvidobeboda da am omperiis SenarCuneba ukve SeuZlebeli iyo. mgonia ara, rom mxari Amerikas Masin daeWira gamsaxurdiasTvis is Sescvlida Raimes. rac Seexeba 8 agvistos provokacias, rusebis motivaciaSi saakaSvilis qceva mTavri ar iyo.

- saakaSili unda wavides, ase uTxra kremlma amerikas . .

- es fraza   amerikamac ganacxada, oRond sadam huseinTan mimarTebaSi. rasakvirvelia, aseTi gamonaTqvamebi diplomatiur diskursSi ar jdeba. is, rac uTxres kondoliza raiss, ruseTis poziciis daufaravi gamoxatulebaa: saqarTvelo ruseTma unda gaakontrolos . . . kremls unda, rom saqarTvelo, rogorc Tavad amboben iyos “naSa gruzia”, ara da es qarTvelebs ar undaT. ver gaiges es rusebma. amtomacaa es ubedureba!

- 8 agvisto 7 noembers gadafaravs? dasavleTi saakaSvils adamianis uflebebis apatiebs Selaxvas?

- roca saubari natos wevrobaze midgeba, mas swored noemberi SeiZleba Seaxsenon 7. es ar qreba ukvalod sakiTxi ASET also Seasustebs saakaSvilis pozicias. amave dros globalurad ruseTisa daiwyeba the dasavleTis, the ukrainis dapirispireba ruseTisa. mgonia naklebad soup kitchen, rum ruseTs ekonomikuri sanqciebi dauweson, meanwhile dasavleTma ruseTSi izrunos when Tavis dabandebebis usafrTxoebazec XOM.

- qarTvelebisTvis that ekonomikur faqtorze metad sazRvrebis upirvelesi usafrTxoebaa. .

- im pirobebSi, roca kidev ori kavkasiuri respublika kvlav ruseTis kontrolis qveSaa da arsebobs mTiani yarabaxis problema, es marTlac sasicocxloa sakiTxia TqvenTvis. Zalian dakvirvebulni unda iyoT nebismieri nabijis gadadgmisas.

- G”jorjia, jorjias!” Zaxilis Semdeg, axla rogori iqneba dasavleTis ritorika?

- wamyvani iqneba ara saqarTvelos mdgomareoba, aramed damokidebuleba ruseTTan. amerikas ruseTTan uTqvenodac aqvs problemebi. ameriklebma SeiZleba ar ician sadaa saqarTvelo, magram samagierod ician, sadaa ruseTi, romelsac atomuri iaraRi aqvs.

- truant truant da xom SeiZleba ruseTi natoSi miiRin? Amit dasavleTi erTbaSad uamrav kurdRels moklavs . . .

- ruseTi Zalian didia, igi da natoSi arademokratiuli qveyanaa miRebis mission sakiTxi dRis wesrigSi kidev xani didi ar dadgeba.

          gazeTi “saqarTvelos respublika” 21/08/08