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Andrey Piontkovsky: Western Countries Will Not Give the Right to Russia to Destroy Tbilisi

         Andrey Piontkovsky: Western Countries Will Not Give the Right to 
                                  Russia to Destroy  Tbilisi

 

     By Ia Merkviladze , NY – Washington , USA

     (For the News Paper “Sakartvelos Respublika "16/08/2008)

; dasavleTi rusebs Tbilisi dangrevis uflebas

or miscems

interview Sep politologTan, Hudson Institute mowveul

professor Andrei piontkovskisTan

; merkvilaZe IA, New - iorki - Washington, Ass

- b-n Andrei, s dros raRac “ucnaurad” gaqra “suvereni” kokoiTi   . . .

- kokoiTi cnobili provokatoria, igi qarTuli soflebis   dacxrilvis organizatori gaxldaT. saakaSvils provokacia mouwyves, Seityues xafangSi. iseTive provokacia mouwyves,   rogoric CeCneTis omis dawyebisTvis iyo mofiqrebuli. kokoiTma absoluturad dakarga osebis ndoba, radaganac igi maSinve gaiqca cxinvalidan, rogorc ki saomari moqmedebebi daiwyo da qalaqSi samoqalaqo pirebi, qalebi, bavSvebi datova. provokatorma gaakeTa Tavisi saqme da axla, albaT, samxreT oseTis Tavkacad sxvas daayeneben..

- rogor fiqrobT, am adamians rusuli There oseuri gvari eqneba ?

- saqme imaSia, Kokoity erTaderTi rom iyo, visac osuri gvari hqonda samxreT'll feel administraciaSi. Premier - Minister to Zalovanebi rusebi iyvnen.

- rogorc iqna Yvel dainaxa, rom samxreT'll feel damoukideblobaze saubari arasodes yofila. . .

- 'll feel Zalovani struqturebi aramarto ruseTis Zalovanebis wargzavnilebi, aramed moskovis kriminaluri klanebis wargzavnilebic gaxldnen. es cxadi to absoluturad yvelasTvis gasagebi iyo. There visaubrebT afxazeTze, gvesmosdes unda, rom afxazeTis mmarTveloba garkveulwilad damoukidebel TamaSs awarmoebs, Tumca, rasakvirvelia, sruladaa damokidebuli ruseTze, magram Mainz. kokoiTis xelisuflebaSi ki Tavidan mxolod marionetebi iyvnen to amitomac ase small gaqrnen omis velidan.

- nuTu SesaZlebelia kvlav CeCnuri kartis gaTamaSeba ?

- Georgia-ruseTis omis dawyeba iseTive provokaciaa, rogoric iyo CeCneTis omis dasawyosi. Moskova gacnobierebulad eweoda CeCneTis OMS, basa Setyuebuli iyo daRestanSi, war ruseTs omis dawyebis Sababa mier. cxinvalSi ganviTarebuli movlenebi saqarTveloSi didi omis dawyebis mizezi gaxldaT.

- rogor fiqrobT, ekonomikuri TvalsazrisiT, ruseTs omis warmoeba swored Axl awyobda war?

- ruseTis economics damokidebulia navTobze. Axl FASEB sakmaod maRalia to Sesabamisad, omis dawyebacaa SesaZlebli. fsiqologiurad Drou es iyo, radganac rusuli propaganda gauTavebldad deklarirebda, rom daCoqili Ruşeţu fexze dgeba, rom igi kvlav dominirebs postsabWoTa sivrceze, aRadgens Gavle sferoebs. es ki politikosebisTvis ufor Anniversary in Russia, Vidrios ekonomikuri mosazrebebi.

- rogor afasebT Sedegebs am s?

- orSabaTs mkacrad gamovida you be green, gasakvirad mkacrad. samSabaTs safrangeTis Prezidenti moskovSi Cavida. magram is SeTanxmeba, romelzec Saakashvili iZulebuli iyo xeli moewera, formulirebulia moskovuri pirobebis safuZvelze. samSabaTs (or vgulisxmob oTxSabaTis gancxadebas) kondoliza raisin gamovida ufro rbilad, Vidrios es Wina Dress buSma gaakeTa. Me Minda vTqva, Roma dasavleTi araa mzad wavides ruseTTan seriozul konfrontaciaze. Sarkozy samSabaTs qmedeba erTxel kidev adasturebs am konpliqtSi evropis pozicias.

- ras ar niSnavs mzad Aris? rodis iqneba mzad?

- damokidebulia rusul gazze Europe, navTobze. Germania da safrangeTi, arsobrivad, Aryan rusuli politikis gamtareblebi. italiam daiWira gansakuTrebiT promposkovuri da proputinuri mxare. berluskonisa da da saqmiani putins piradi megobroba urTierToba akavSirebT. with vaSingtonSi vmuSaob da beef, rom aq Moskovia gavlena araa Didi. asserts bevri damokidebulia arCevnebze ram. You makqeini prezidentad airco, IGI marTlac ruseTis mimarT Zalian Shale antiputinur pozicias daikavebs. ki am SemTxvevaSic missiles pozicia Serbilebul iqneba inglisisa safrangeTis of Mier. Germania yvelafers gaakeTebs, rom ruseTis mimarT shale damokidebuleba wamyvani pozicia IYOSEI air. rasakvirevlia, saqartvelo aqvs mxardaWeris perspeqtiva. orSabaTs ki Iyo saSiSroeba imis, rom tankebi Sevidodnen of Tbilisi, faqtobrivad, mxolod busi gancaxdebam Seac Putini qalaqis aRebisgan. es maqsimumi Aris, RAC SeuZlia dasavleTs. lean samxreT afxazeTi Ossetia, faqtobrivad, mTlianad gadavida ruseTis mmarTvelobaSi of saqarTvelom dakarga mcireodeni more, but RAC IQ kidev hqonda Jer. es faqtia morning FAQTs dasavleTi SeekamaTeba gold. vambob imas, rom saqarTvelos saboloo moxrCobis uflebas aravis miscemen. is, innovation mowmenic Tqven xarT, Aris dasavleTis damokidebulebis model. ubralod dasavleTi rusebs Tbilisis dangrevis uflebas miscems ar. misces nebarTvac innovation, is Tqvenc kargad ICIT.

- warmovidginoT rom ert ruseTs mSvenier DdRes energomatareblebi amoewura. . .

- dasavleTisTvis saqarTvelo araa yvelaze mTavari problem. IGI Europe saerTod da ar impotent warmoadgens MmTavar moTamaSes. mode, visaubroT ass-ze. ratom gasdis putins? imitom rom amerikis garkveul IGI sisustes grZnobs, OMIA eraySi, avRaneTSi. avtoriteti Amerikis DAEC, aris Zalia bevri dapirispireba AIDS. iqceva amitomac Putini ise, rogoradac iqceva. aris raRac zRvari, romelsac dasavleTi Witler mouxazavs ruseTs. gancxadebebi Amerikis maxsovs me, rock tankebi CexoslovakiaSi Seiyvanes. is iyo ruseTis pamper Zalia mkacri damokidebulebis gamoxatvis gacxadebebi. ki iyo axla zusti information, rom ruseTi apirebda Tbilisis saerTaSoriso aeroportis dabombvas. Busman pirdapir uTxra medvedevs, rom is absoluturad dauSvebelia, Mzima Zalia radganac Sedegebi mohyveboda love. Amerikis gavlena sakmarisi aRmoCnda imisTvis, rat ar gaesworebinaT miwasTan Tbilisi. kremlSi xsxvadasxva dajgufebebia. aris dajgufeba, romelic mzadaa bolomde gaanadguros saqarTvelo anu saqme   logikur dasasrulamde miiyvanos. buSis damsaxurebaa, rom es ar moxda.   moxda is, rac moxda. aravin daexmareba saqarTvelos samxreT oseTisa da afxazeTis dabrunebaSi.

- ra igulisxma buSma seriozul SedegebSi ?

- amis Sesaxeb oficialur doneze araferi uTqvamT. magram . . . kremlis naZirlebs sabanko angariSebi dasavleTis bankebSi aqvT da es Tanxebi miliard dolarebs iTvlis. amis Sesaxeb dasavleTis specsamsaxurebisTvisaa cnobili. Tbilisis dabombvis meore dRes es angariSebi gaiyineboda. mxolod aman gaaCera putin. es aris is ZiriTadi gavlena to Berket, romelic dasavleTs realurad aqvs.

- mTels kremls, uklebliv, Zalovanebis CaTvliT angariSebi mxolod dasavleTSi aqvT? naxevrad xumrobiT, samSobloSi principulad abandeben ar? . . .

- yvelas, absoluturad yvelas sabanko angariSebi mxolod dasavleTSi aqvs. mTels Rusul Elitas. ruseTSi vin arian politikosebi? pasuxi: Zalovanebi. Yvel kargad icis, rom mtel rusuli navTbis 60% is eqsporti xdeba Sveicaruli firmis "gunovor" - is saSualebiT, romelsac, faqtobrivad, Putini marTavs.

- sabanko anagariSebis gayinva samxreT oseTisa the air SeiZleba afxazeTis buck? Tbilisi gadaarCina iman, rom iq qalaqi swrafad Sendeba of ucxoelebis inveticiebia Cadebuli didi?

- Diax. ise, es kiTxva me ki ara, dasavleTs dausviT. etyoba, rom SeiZleba air. busi Zalian konkretulad ambobda. "Bla, bla, blas" bodiali dauwyia air. man Zalian kargad dasva mTavari sakiTxi.

- rock orSabaTs Tbilisi Saakashvili Droit saRamos rims of dagvemSvidoba Cveni gamovitireT saqartvelo, BUSM amis Semdgom gaakeTa Tavis mkacri gancxadeba . . .

- Diax. busi gancxadeba gakeTebul iqna Moskovia Droit samSabaTs Dili saaTze 2. Anu sasowarkveTili saubari saqarTelos prezindentsa of Buss Soria Tbilisi dabombvis information miRebis Semdgom moxda of mxolod amis Semdgom BUSM gancxada more ganacxada RAC.

- azerbaijanisa of somxeTis liderebi Camovidnen saqarTveloSi air. . .

- es didi dartymaa TqvenTvis, gansakuTrebiT didi imedgacruebaa is, rom alievi ar Camovida. magram is frTxili politikosia da mas   moskovTan konfrontacia ar awyobs. arada es pirdapir mas exeba, iq xom nabTobsadenia, romelsac ruseTi bombavda. aqac SeuZliaT amerikelebs Tqvan, rom es navTobsadeni wiTeli xazia. amave dros am navTobsadens rusebi didad ar gaanadgureben, radganac iq TurqeTia. rusebma Tavad gadawyvites navTobsadeni ar gaanadguron.

- gaeros, faqtobrivad, veRar mivmarTavT?  

- vera. Ruşeţu daadebs vetos. es aris absoluturad carieli institutes. uSiSroebis sabWo arafers wyvets. arasdoros miiReba resolutions. maT mxolod them saxis resolutions SeuZliaT miiRon, romelsac saakaSvilma xeli ukve moawera. Sarkozy XOM daTanxmda imas, rac medvedevma miuTiTa. iq faqtobrivad, Araali saubari saqaTvelos teritoriul mTlianobaze.

- preskonferenciaze moskovSi cnebaze msjelobdnen sovereignties. . .

- cneba suverenitets visac rogor unda, ise gansazRvravs. Tqven sworad aRniSneT. afxazeTis you'll feel samxreT gamo ruseTs aravin gauyinavs angariSebs. . .   Tbilisis   gamo - ki. marTali giTxraT, me amasac ar velodi. meore DdRes TeTri saxlidan buSis pirveli gamosvlis Serbilebas kondoliza raisi Seecada. magram sarkozim sruliad gansxavebuli pozicia daiWira.

- am omamde, konfliqturi zonebis mowyobis sakiTxSi saqarTvelo ase Tu ise mainc monawileobda. axla?

- putins xom saakaSvilis wasvlis organizeba undoda. rusebi Tqvens prezidents damnaSaved gamoacxadeben da ityvian, rom Cven “kriminalTan da samxedro damnaSavesTan "saubars sulac vapirebTo ar.

- saakaSvilis adgilas moimoqmedebdiT race?

- namdvilad ar visurvebdi axla saakaSvilis adgilas yofnas. sabednierod, jerobiT American manager, rogorc gavlenis faqtori, arsebobs. buSma is gaakeTa, rom ar daabombia rusebs Tbilisi. amerikasTan urTierTobebi gaamyaroT Unda Unda da isurvoT, rom arCevnebze jon makqeinma gaimarjvos. me gancda maqvs imis, rom is marTlac gaimarjvebs. is, rom makqeinma gaakeTa kenedis cnobili frazis "me berlineli var" perefrazi, TqvenTvis sasikeTo niSania. I is adamiania, romelic vietnamSi tyveobaSi ijda. mas sastikad awamebdnen. ruseTidan kagabes warmomadgenelebi specilaurad Camovidnen mis sawameblad. rusebisadmi Mass damokidebuleba absoluturad gasagebia.

- Magra amerikelebis 90% of ma-icis, such saqarTvelo. . .

- I 90% with wyvets policy, wyvets presidents. amitom You makqeini mova, mission policy rust mimarT ufro xisti iqneba.

- rogor fiqrobT , makqeinis adminitracia saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTlinobis problmas gadawyvetaSi dagvexmareba?

- Cveni CeCneTTan daregulirda problem? Tavs ruseTi ityuebs, Roca ambobs, rom CeCneTSi ruseTis teritoriuli mTlianoba aRadgina. axla CeCneTi ufro metadaa damoukidebeli, vidre es masxadovis dross. es aris da Zalian rTuli problemebis erToblioba off gadawyveta rTulze rTuli sakiTxia. verafers getyviT. Previous SemTxvevaSi, mxolod magaliTiT SeiZleba off dabruneba. ai, saakaSilisTvis ruseTs rom batons mainc eclia, 2-3 win weliwadSi saqarTvelo sagrZnoblad waiwevda: Tbilisi rogor Seicvala, rogor galamazda aware, rogori msoflio kurorti gaxdeboda IGI. Tqven yvelafers sworad akeTebdiT, Tu avad kargad saqarTvelos wesrigdeboda Economy. ki afxazebi Tavad daiwyebdnen imaze fiqrs rom ayvavebul asset qveyanis qolgis qveS ecxovraT. mxolod ekonomikurad ayvavebul saqarTvelos SeuZlia am regionebis daabruneba.

; gazeTi “saqarTvelos respublika” 16/08/08